Chemo wrote: ""It was not a direct threat of violence. It was a statement of truth. I would find their true identity and proceed with a campaign exposing their complete lack of respect for the soldiers that have died fighting for their country. Of course this would be a more powerful tactic if the individual were US or UK based as we've suffered the most number of casualties however I don't know of any country that would make light of a dead soldier unless they were supportive of the terrorist movement. Surely you don't support the terrorists around the world do you Burt?""

My response is that citizens of countries where the US has invaded regard the US as the terrorists and they regard the US army as terrorist occupiers. They also see themelves as the resistance. Chemo sounds like Dubya Bush with the 'are you with us or against us' rhetoric.

Chemo wrote: ""Alternately, allow their employers to be aware that their employee makes jokes about dead soldiers and is a terrorist sympathizer. It could even be interpreted as contacting the local newspaper in their town to see if they'll cover the story""

Not all ordinary folk are happy at the amount of soldiers killed in any war or illegal attack such as the Iraq invasion however the soldiers SHOULD object to the government sa they themselves are being used as puppets to further US imperialism and its evil crusader dreams.

If a soldier goes to fight in an illegal war in Afghanistan or Iraq just because he or she does not have the guts to become a Conscientious Objector then really there can only be a limited amount of sympathy if they get killed or maimed because they were NOT fighting for their country and keeping it safe from 'terrorists', they were in fact fighting for the imperialistic designs on ruling and controlling other nations and their natural resources that their fanatic racist Christian Evangelical End-Timer pro-zionist anti Muslim anti-Arab government who were running the US of A.

Put it this way I am not exactly distressed when news of a dead US soldier in Afghanistan or Iraq is announced but at the same time there is a mixture of emotions when a Brit soldiers is killed because it was one of 'mine' but at the end of the day they went there to die because Bush told Blair to jump and the poodle said 'how high'. I just wish they would refuse to fight in illegal imperialist wars!

About the rest of the thread I have to say I can not see any justification from Vger as to why she has refused to call her project 'ReadyCart' and label it as a fork of oscommerce (dot com, not oscommerce registered trademark capital R within a circle).

How any moderator was allowed to stay on any forum whether newoscommerceproject or oscommerce (dot com, not oscommerce registered trademark capital R within a circle)after threatening someone is beyond me, so it seems a case of favouritism for the sake of keeping Chemo onboard to code the next release of the next project eCommerce Ventures Ltd had in the pipeline.

The only conclusion is she must have had a good case to hate Harald enough to do this as well as the fact she was probably looking at this from monetary terms too. I can not believe its not butter… I mean I can not believe oscommerce (dot com, not oscommerce registered trademark capital R within a circle) has had its name dragged through the mud like this.

Your whole premise from the beginning has been to "save" osCommerce. What do we hear from you now? That osCommerce (according to you) has now died with your miserable "v2.0 Final" release. We have seen your abandonment of v3 and now your much touted (but non-existent) v4. Now you claim to be beginning another cart altogether without a development team of any substance. You again prove to everybody that you have no regard whatsoever for osCommerce or the osCommerce community. Yes, you will keep your miserable forums alive to milk whatever you can from them and continue your misuse of the osCommerce name to suit your own ends. Yes, you will continue your criminal behavior of trademark and copyright infringement, we expect no less from you.

I don't actually believe that even with Bobby Easland you had a development team of substance, since he has proved (yet again) that he is not capable of sticking with a project. Project-X does not exist and never has other than as a pipe dream. I also recall Bobby's "mystery illness" (yes, he was supposedly dying) as his excuse for that (he now claims to have been called up for military service, something I don't believe he has ever done). Project-X went from a couple of weeks to release (supposedly) to never materializing at all. I can't wait to see his excuse this time!

I find it remarkable that I am somehow to blame for anything that you do. By telling the World that you applied for trademark registration of "osCommerce" simply because of things that I have said only reinforces what a miserable person you are. You prove yet again that your trademark application was made in bad faith and will fail on those grounds alone. Take responsibility for yourself, these are things that you have done yourself and are not something which I have any control over whatsoever. I will not take responsibility for your anger, for your lying or anything else that YOU do.

Well if Vger rights it at least their cart will be centered … but that is about it. They don't have a coder for the project anymore. A few hacks but the only people working on the development were Rob and Bobby and they are both gone. My guess is this is just a "way out" for Vger as she now realizes that her cart will never make it off the ground and V2 Final is a step backward for osC.

Since they announced their plans Nov 1 they have;
1) Produced 3 (THREE) final versions and still don't even have something as simple as an upgrade path yet. I guess they were waiting for Alpha 6 Final before adding the upgrade path…. lmao.
2) Lost both their key coders (Robert and Bobby) and the only two who were doing any work on the project.
3) Lost 2 (TWO) dedicated servers, one that hosted their forum and the other for their development server. They are now on a shared hosting account at Terranetwork.
4) They have been caught in every sleazy act they have tried such as applying for the TM and spinning their move to a new faster server.
5) They have and realized they never will be able to stop the bad press for themselves and for the damage to their individual reputations.

All in all a utter and total failure from the very start to now, no wonder Vger has tried to create another spin on this but IMO it is because they are shutting it down. But I wouldn't trust Vger for a second, not one action says anyone can trust her.

It is my -opinion- that you now have no-one on that team capable of writing a cart from scratch. What is the way forward for vger-cart?